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    Saturday, September 29 2012, 04:01 PM - #permalink
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    I'm very curious to see how this goes!
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    Wednesday, October 10 2012, 11:09 PM - #permalink
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    Why do you have the "not say" option? If someone doesn't want to answer they just don't answer!
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    Thursday, October 11 2012, 01:35 PM - #permalink
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    We have the "no say" option in case someone feels that this is a subject which they'd like to contribute to but do not feel happy to tell the world what their own orientation is. Having said that it's 100% anonymous!
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    Thursday, October 11 2012, 03:38 PM - #permalink
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    Scott Thornbury who suggests that TEFL attracts a higher percentage of gay teachers...

    So, as far as I have understood, TEFL attracts more gays than...

    Excuse me for not having understood completely, but... I wonder there's a higher percentage of gays than what? Than the usual percentage of gays in the teaching of OTHER SUBJECTS, like of teaching Math? Or than the usual percentage of gays and lesbians in the society?

    It would be interesting to make it clear. Thank you in advance.
    • Jenny Scott
      more than a month ago
      I read it to mean a higher percentage than in society in general. A relatively recent poll in the UK suggested it was about 6%. I think Scott Thornbury feels that TEFL teaching attracts a higher percentage than that. I could be wrong, but that's my take on it.
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    Thursday, October 11 2012, 04:01 PM - #permalink
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    Gay

    and proud of it. How many closet cases are there?!

    Neither is your response system *truly* anonymous - it insists on an email address.
    • Jenny Scott
      more than a month ago
      You can vote without leaving an email address; comments have an email address (to help try and prevent spamming).
    • Jenny Scott
      more than a month ago
      And a lot of closets imho! In many countries it's not the sort of thing that would go down well if it came out.
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    Friday, October 19 2012, 09:45 AM - #permalink
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    So, the question itself has been put incorrectly.

    "In EFL there are more gays."

    Period. Or rather an exclamation mark. More gays!!!! :p

    My friends, I'll reveal you a secret. Any statistical sampling, which has been made among any group of adults (checker players, boxers, mathematicians or pocket thieves) will show any rate or any factor higher than average in society. At least because about 15-25 per cent of population make underage children who can't participate in such polls by definition.

    So, if you want to confirm or to deny the opinion of some Mr. Thornsbury - be my guest. But please keep in mind that by scientifical correctness this is the same as an attempt to count exact quantity of angels living on the tip of a needle.
    • Jenny Scott
      more than a month ago
      I think the key here is talking about a "relatively high number of gays" in TEFL as oppose to other professions. It's always going to be difficult though since we don't have reliable figures for the general population let alone a group as specific as TEFL teachers. Surveys have indicated anything between 20% - 1% without even getting into precisely what the definition of what, exactly, gay means (having a lover of the same sex? having had a same sex relationship? having had gay thoughts?).

      There's a *lot* of room for work here. But one thing can't be denied and that is the way in which the majority of people involved in the TEFL industry are blind to the possibility of same-sex relationships. As we say in the article, fifty years ago women were in the kitchen and minorities didn't exist in TEFL material. Nowadays it's gay people who don't exist in TEFL material (and are actively erased which is even worse).
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